Nevermore: Jeff Loomis' Raga Scale Guitar Lesson

One of my favorite guitarists

India is a really interesting place it seems :P

Never been big on Nevermore, but buddy shreeeds haha Great scale too

Very exotic sound, cool.

what a mad scale

see the album Fortress by Protest the Hero for rampant use of this scale. sounds sick!

one amazing guitarist! and that's one hellava guitar!

I wanna someone in India who can shred like Loomis!

I wish I could tell which Raga scale it is...I googled Raga scale and there are a ton of different versions xD But man Jeff is great!

I feel awful for anybody who usually sight-reads notation - the number of ledger lines there is deadly.

GP5 tab doesn't load, it 404s.

why is his tone so mediocre ?

Gsus he just flies. It's all like dee daa duu daa dedheudheudheudhuedhuehduehduedhu

Title needs to be corrected. Jeff Loomis just announced his departure from Nevermore. :[

wordlesss.....!!...amazing!!!!

Uhhh.... After you account for the half step down tuning, the tab sez the notes in the scale are : E F G# A# B D E ..

That G# isn't exactly screaming "E minor scale" to me. Am I missing something ?

Hey JephStiph,

I filmed that lesson and tabbed it out. You are very keen sir. G# is indeed a major third of E. However, every other note is from some sort of minor scale.

E=Root
F=2nd of E phrygian minor
A#=b5 of E minor pentatonic
B=4th of E minor
D=7th of E minor

You can have a major third in a minor scale. It's call Spanish Phrygian. You can also have Maj/Min chords.

Thanks for your input!

^^^ not to be argumentative, but the only thing that really makes a scale "minor" is the third degree of the scale. When the third scale degree is major and the seventh degree is lowered, it s a DOMINANT scale. The scale gets its tonality from the chord you would play with it, if you played an E chord from this scale it would be a dominant chord, not a minor chord. The rest of the notes would just be extensions on the upper structure and do not affect tonality.
Granted this is all jazz music theory but im thinking it all still applies. Also to comment on the notes on the staff, the notes are in bass clef, why would they put it in bass clef on a treble clef instrument? Not to sound like a theory nazi, but i thought id let some people know.

That was pretty sick!

yup loomis quit nevermore. band will split for sure. i heard dane was in rehab again.

playtrip wrote: I wanna someone in India who can shred like Loomis!

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0_iPG_owtk#t=03m12s

rockgodman wrote: ^^^ not to be argumentative, but the only thing that really makes a scale "minor" is the third degree of the scale. When the third scale degree is major and the seventh degree is lowered, it s a DOMINANT scale. The scale gets its tonality from the chord you would play with it, if you played an E chord from this scale it would be a dominant chord, not a minor chord. The rest of the notes would just be extensions on the upper structure and do not affect tonality.

Agreed. The presence of both the A# and the B also suggests that the A# functions here as an augmented 4th rather than a diminished 5th. This is definitely a dominant scale (both the 3 and the b7 are present); if I had to characterize it, I'd call it a hybrid of Phrygian dominant (due to the b2-3 interval) and Lydian dominant (dominant with a #4). In a jazzier situation, I'd play this over an altered E7, particularly E7b9; it would also be tasty over Bb7b9 (in fact, this note collection has exactly the same relationships to Bb that it has to E).

playtrip wrote: I wanna someone in India who can shred like Loomis!

http://www.youtube.com/user/sunnysolos?fe ature=mhee

Hey i've covered LOOMIS SONG i hink i'm the only one who has covered a loomis song from India

playtrip wrote: I wanna someone in India who can shred like Loomis!

Hey i've covered loomis song check my channel and i think i'm the only one from India covering a loomis song on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/sunnysolos