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Reaper/chaos :
Ugh what?!?! The world record was broken?!?! How do yo go that fast?!?! POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 01:16 pm / quote |
mr2METALthnLIFE :
for being fastest guitarist, this guy really sucks POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 02:10 pm / quote |
El_Lobo_1 :
mr2METALthnLIFE@
lol i was just thinking the same thing... He has speed but no... power or rythm. He just plays notes and doesn't put any soul into it... I play metal with alot of blues influence.... POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 02:41 pm / quote |
Zaphod_Beeblebr :
El_Lobo_1 wrote:
mr2METALthnLIFE@
lol i was just thinking the same thing... He has speed but no... power or rythm. He just plays notes and doesn't put any soul into it... I play metal with alot of blues influence.... |
Because we all know blues is the only music in the world that allows you to "put feeling" into your music. I've said it before and I'll say it again the term "feeling" is only ever used by people who can't think of any other way of justifying something that is inherently unjustifiable.
For my part at least I appreciate the skill but hate the music. It's just boring to me. POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 02:53 pm / quote |
sk8ordie97 :
Zaphod_Beeblebr wrote:
El_Lobo_1 wrote:
mr2METALthnLIFE@
lol i was just thinking the same thing... He has speed but no... power or rythm. He just plays notes and doesn't put any soul into it... I play metal with alot of blues influence....
Because we all know blues is the only music in the world that allows you to "put feeling" into your music. I've said it before and I'll say it again the term "feeling" is only ever used by people who can't think of any other way of justifying something that is inherently unjustifiable.
For my part at least I appreciate the skill but hate the music. It's just boring to me. |
I really hate that argument too. It always seems to be used by blues guys who can play well slow, but thats the extent of their capabilities. Look at Loomis (solo stuff) or Broderick or Borizlav Mitic. Those guys are incredibly fast yet retain the sense of feeling POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 05:47 pm / quote |
Necronomicon :
sk8ordie97 wrote:
Zaphod_Beeblebr wrote:
El_Lobo_1 wrote:
mr2METALthnLIFE@
lol i was just thinking the same thing... He has speed but no... power or rythm. He just plays notes and doesn't put any soul into it... I play metal with alot of blues influence....
Because we all know blues is the only music in the world that allows you to "put feeling" into your music. I've said it before and I'll say it again the term "feeling" is only ever used by people who can't think of any other way of justifying something that is inherently unjustifiable.
For my part at least I appreciate the skill but hate the music. It's just boring to me.
I really hate that argument too. It always seems to be used by blues guys who can play well slow, but thats the extent of their capabilities. Look at Loomis (solo stuff) or Broderick or Borizlav Mitic. Those guys are incredibly fast yet retain the sense of feeling |
speed has it's place but it's not the be all and end all of guitar playing. having the ability to play as fast as you want just allows you more avenues to express what's in your head, it doesn't MAKE you a better musician. I think of it (like everything else) as a car. A slow car can beat a fast one if the fast driver sucks. What you need is a fast car with a driver who can handle it. music is a thing to be created, not a technique to be mastered. POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 10:14 pm / quote |
Draconis93 :
So he has the world record for speed, let's see him write something good, then I'll be impressed. POSTED: 02/18/2011 - 11:10 pm / quote |
MatasTeen :
Tosin Abasi anyone? People here are cherishing the wrong guitarists. POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 07:05 am / quote |
Dream Floyd :
Why can I never watch their video format? POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 11:35 am / quote |
HazeSpace :
MatasTeen wrote:
Tosin Abasi anyone? People here are cherishing the wrong guitarists. |
he's a really good.. way better then 99% of the guitarist out there.. POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 01:36 pm / quote |
deyangeorgiev :
a chubby dude wearing a size S shirt with a purple band on his hair and painted fingernails... who else could hold the world speed record? POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 04:26 pm / quote |
Swannie :
in one of his vids this guy says "this is really fast, but it' not music"... respect. POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 05:03 pm / quote |
Benje :
That dude is amazing! But I don't really have any respect for metal guitarists. They are so freaking amazing!! How they can move their pick-hand that fast up and down is sick! But, like a lot of people have said, its not really music. POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 05:50 pm / quote |
ObfusKation :
Benje wrote:
That dude is amazing! But I don't really have any respect for metal guitarists. They are so freaking amazing!! How they can move their pick-hand that fast up and down is sick! But, like a lot of people have said, its not really music. |
just because you don't like metal doesn't mean you have to knock it. i hate when people use this stupid ****ing argument. Metal is REALLY music which takes tons of talent to play. You wouldn't go up to a painter and say what he just painted isn't art, so have the same respect for musicians that make metal. POSTED: 02/19/2011 - 09:25 pm / quote |
bafonikolas :
I've met this guy IRL and besides speed this guy has nothin else to offer.Terrible technique and creativity to say the least.Too bad god only gave him speed and nothing else... POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 12:23 pm / quote |
Cold Reader :
Really not a good musician. A boring, flat instrumental demonstration, very limited dynamic changes, nothing of rhythmic or melodic interest, no 'feel' or power, he didn't even look like he was performing.
Yeah... not too good. POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 01:20 pm / quote |
ProgJazzMath :
Quit with the whole "he ain't got no soul" bullshit. Just because people don't over use the pentatonic scale and play at slow speeds doesn't mean it has no soul. You didn't write the music, so you have no way of knowing that. In this case, he is mainly showcasing speed because that is his gig. Don't hate him for it, it's just his thing and it may not be yours, so there really isn't much reason to bash him. Go on to another video and quit your bickering. POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 02:09 pm / quote |
NathanRobbins :
It is possible to write music that's fast and emotional. But, the same can be said for slow played solos. Depending on the feeling you're wanting to go for. HOWEVER!!! The Flight of the ***** Bumblebee was not written to be emotional, spiritually moving, or anything else other than mimicking an insect. Which this guy does well on guitar. As for his other capabilities, who knows. I know that i wouldn't be too proud of being the best at mimicking an insect with my instrument, but hey... to each his own.
About the argument of fast vs feeling: I understand where the blues players are coming from. When people think of rock/metal leads they never think of those amazingly expressive solos that can bring you to tears or some of the crazy, fun music of Vai or Satriani. They think of the mindless, pointless shred that so many bad guitarists spew out these days. However, a guitar player's speed has nothing to do with his compositional abilities, and just because you play blues doesn't mean your music has feeling. I've heard plenty of blues players that were just sitting there, playing their notes, and didn't even look like they were enjoying it. What makes a musician good is a proper blend of the two. Not one or the other, and not even half and half. But finding your own way of making everything that you're playing expressive is what makes a good musician/composer. Now, the lot of you, go listen to John Petrucci and stfu.  POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 04:49 pm / quote |
MozSmith1 :
ObfusKation wrote:
just because you don't like metal doesn't mean you have to knock it. i hate when people use this stupid ****ing argument. Metal is REALLY music which takes tons of talent to play. You wouldn't go up to a painter and say what he just painted isn't art, so have the same respect for musicians that make metal. |
Yeah, i'm not knocking metal at all. But i will say that metal takes more stamina than talent, especially in terms of solos. All because a lot of metal solos is just putting scales together (not saying all metal players, but most) which is mostly mindless as Nathan says (true) but also self serving. So it does take a lot of feeling out of most players because they're just going by the book of scales. I say go off the scale and deform the scale to fit your feel and sound. individuate yourself from the foreseeable street mostly all of us see guitarist go down when playin solos. don't play solos to be cocky, play em cause they mean something. If you wanna be & look cocky, put a sweater over your back and tie the arms of the sweater in the front and walk around with your nose up in the air, it's easier. POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 08:18 pm / quote |
CatAmplifier :
never liked Petrucci >.< for me it's all the same - shred...
you listen to Forsaken by DT, it's awesome... but then goes the solo... and you think.. what the O_o
want some feeling? try some Tosin's work or Misha's POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 08:53 pm / quote |
Rajah :
I just love how everyone thinks they can judge how good or not a guitarist is by a random video posted on the internet. Whether you like it or not this guy has talent.
As for me, I've heard of him adn his "world record", that's about it. Never heard anything else he's done and probably won't bother. POSTED: 02/20/2011 - 09:13 pm / quote |
Will XS01 :
MatasTeen wrote:
Tosin Abasi anyone? People here are cherishing the wrong guitarists. |
TOSIN  POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 01:27 am / quote |
CatAmplifier :
well. i've heard his group... there are videos on youtube
but... nothing special.
increasing the number of notes in the solo doesn't make it better POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 07:25 am / quote |
Llama-Guru :
wow that was quite a waste of time. who cares if you can play at 340 bpm if it sounds like shit and offers nothing creative at all. Not saying i'm a great or even a good guitarist but my 125 bpm riffs and licks sound and flow a hell of alot better than this probably because i don't care a hell of alot about speed i just want shit to sound good and i wish most musicians where like that... POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 11:08 am / quote |
Benje :
ObfusKation wrote:
Benje wrote:
That dude is amazing! But I don't really have any respect for metal guitarists. They are so freaking amazing!! How they can move their pick-hand that fast up and down is sick! But, like a lot of people have said, its not really music.
just because you don't like metal doesn't mean you have to knock it. i hate when people use this stupid ****ing argument. Metal is REALLY music which takes tons of talent to play. You wouldn't go up to a painter and say what he just painted isn't art, so have the same respect for musicians that make metal. |
Ok that is actually a good argument! Its just my opinion... I think metal guitarists are a heck of a lot better than people who play pop (which is the music I like best) but I think that screaming into the mic is not really singing and playing the double bass drum super fast isn't playing the drums but that is just my opinion. I think it takes talent but I would never ever listen to it. POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 12:59 pm / quote |
The_Moth :
This dude made a big "splash" by doing Bumblebee thing but this is just lame. POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 01:38 pm / quote |
isispelican :
MatasTeen wrote:
Tosin Abasi anyone? People here are cherishing the wrong guitarists. |
yes! tosin is the future of music! and so is misha POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 04:32 pm / quote |
filipe26 :
In the words of John Petrucci: "In order for you, as a guitarist, to become a well rounded MUSICIAN, you have to master the three major aspescts of guitar playing: the technical side, the musical side, and the creative side."
Later he explains as technical the physical abilities you must master. As musical the theoretical and ear-perceptive part, and as ARTISTIC the creative side.
Now Tiago Della-Vega, from the little i know about him (he's actually from a city nearby) is not an outstanding ARTIST, but he obviously is a great guitarist and musician, like it or not one of the greatest hundreds.
PS: I'm not a fan of his either, but that's just the simple truth. POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 06:18 pm / quote |
filipe26 :
Benje wrote:
ObfusKation wrote:
Benje wrote:
That dude is amazing! But I don't really have any respect for metal guitarists. They are so freaking amazing!! How they can move their pick-hand that fast up and down is sick! But, like a lot of people have said, its not really music.
just because you don't like metal doesn't mean you have to knock it. i hate when people use this stupid ****ing argument. Metal is REALLY music which takes tons of talent to play. You wouldn't go up to a painter and say what he just painted isn't art, so have the same respect for musicians that make metal.
Ok that is actually a good argument! Its just my opinion... I think metal guitarists are a heck of a lot better than people who play pop (which is the music I like best) but I think that screaming into the mic is not really singing and playing the double bass drum super fast isn't playing the drums but that is just my opinion. I think it takes talent but I would never ever listen to it. |
It is playing and it is singing, just not to your likes. =) POSTED: 02/21/2011 - 06:20 pm / quote |
Kenjisan231 :
Zaphod_Beeblebr wrote:
El_Lobo_1 wrote:
mr2METALthnLIFE@
lol i was just thinking the same thing... He has speed but no... power or rythm. He just plays notes and doesn't put any soul into it... I play metal with alot of blues influence....
Because we all know blues is the only music in the world that allows you to "put feeling" into your music. I've said it before and I'll say it again the term "feeling" is only ever used by people who can't think of any other way of justifying something that is inherently unjustifiable.
For my part at least I appreciate the skill but hate the music. It's just boring to me. |
I think thats the most intelligent and reasonable comment ive ever seen on here.
No its not sarcasm, i feel i have to justify this now, anyway, good job. POSTED: 02/22/2011 - 12:11 am / quote |
Patrijz :
His talent has gotten to his head. The finger nails prove it... POSTED: 02/22/2011 - 03:08 am / quote |
W>O :
he plays guitar really fast.. but,, he couldn`t play music.. POSTED: 02/22/2011 - 07:07 am / quote |
mitchell.minami :
Necronomicon wrote:
sk8ordie97 wrote:
Zaphod_Beeblebr wrote:
El_Lobo_1 wrote:
mr2METALthnLIFE@
lol i was just thinking the same thing... He has speed but no... power or rythm. He just plays notes and doesn't put any soul into it... I play metal with alot of blues influence....
Because we all know blues is the only music in the world that allows you to "put feeling" into your music. I've said it before and I'll say it again the term "feeling" is only ever used by people who can't think of any other way of justifying something that is inherently unjustifiable.
For my part at least I appreciate the skill but hate the music. It's just boring to me.
I really hate that argument too. It always seems to be used by blues guys who can play well slow, but thats the extent of their capabilities. Look at Loomis (solo stuff) or Broderick or Borizlav Mitic. Those guys are incredibly fast yet retain the sense of feeling
speed has it's place but it's not the be all and end all of guitar playing. having the ability to play as fast as you want just allows you more avenues to express what's in your head, it doesn't MAKE you a better musician. I think of it (like everything else) as a car. A slow car can beat a fast one if the fast driver sucks. What you need is a fast car with a driver who can handle it. music is a thing to be created, not a technique to be mastered. |
Speed and being able to play more different things isn't talent? Wow. I guess I don't know what talent is. Also the car doesn't really make much sense. POSTED: 02/22/2011 - 08:01 am / quote |
foosrule :
Benje wrote:
ObfusKation wrote:
Benje wrote:
That dude is amazing! But I don't really have any respect for metal guitarists. They are so freaking amazing!! How they can move their pick-hand that fast up and down is sick! But, like a lot of people have said, its not really music.
just because you don't like metal doesn't mean you have to knock it. i hate when people use this stupid ****ing argument. Metal is REALLY music which takes tons of talent to play. You wouldn't go up to a painter and say what he just painted isn't art, so have the same respect for musicians that make metal.
Ok that is actually a good argument! Its just my opinion... I think metal guitarists are a heck of a lot better than people who play pop (which is the music I like best) but I think that screaming into the mic is not really singing and playing the double bass drum super fast isn't playing the drums but that is just my opinion. I think it takes talent but I would never ever listen to it. |
Tried to play metal and failed. ^^^^^ POSTED: 02/23/2011 - 12:05 pm / quote |
RWFAWCETT :
Did anyone mention what a horrible tone this guy has? POSTED: 02/23/2011 - 06:47 pm / quote |
Deaddog :
He sounds no different than most screamo / melodic metal bands. POSTED: 02/24/2011 - 01:27 am / quote |
xXChimairaXx :
isispelican wrote:
MatasTeen wrote:
Tosin Abasi anyone? People here are cherishing the wrong guitarists.
yes! tosin is the future of music! and so is misha |
mansoor and abasi both have great skill, tosin more, but their music is weird as hell. people keep trying to push music further, pretty much it won't be music at all. it'll just be random sounds. POSTED: 03/02/2011 - 04:02 pm / quote |
jr.v :
finally all that whacking off comes to an use POSTED: 02/28/2012 - 12:43 pm / quote |
showstopperj :
Funny enough he is not the fastest. That would be John Taylor of Denver,CO. By a bunch. POSTED: 05/11/2012 - 09:24 am / quote |
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