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by UG Team on December 1, 2010

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lpkevin :

That's pretty F*ing awesome...

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 10:57 am / quote |
sjones :

Oh boy, another band with "uber brootalz" breakdowns before and after backstreet boys boy-band pop "you broke my heart" bullcrap lyrics and singing.

...spare me.

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 01:05 pm / quote |
ibanez_emg1 :

wow another shitty band, that shouldnt have a record deal.

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 03:06 pm / quote |
Echoplex :

More dancecore? What the actual f*ck is wrong with people?

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 03:10 pm / quote |
Echoplex :

Also, why do they have an unnecessary comma in their name?

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 03:15 pm / quote |
bnew369 :

why are you watching it if you don't like it? its not necessary to bash on people's music... except Justin Bieber

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 07:25 pm / quote |
Roflpwn :

WHY TECHNO?!?!? WHY?!?!?!?!??!

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 08:00 pm / quote |
maniac111 :

Even if you don't like technocore, you've gotta admit their clean vocals are pretty talented

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 08:04 pm / quote |
Echoplex :

bnew369 wrote:

why are you watching it if you don't like it? its not necessary to bash on people's music... except Justin Bieber
Well, this sounds like Justin Bieber if he had a bad day...

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 08:29 pm / quote |
jee5678 :

sjones wrote:

Oh boy, another band with "uber brootalz" breakdowns before and after backstreet boys boy-band pop "you broke my heart" bullcrap lyrics and singing.

...spare me.


Follow these EXTREMELY simple steps, and I guarantee you will be spared from more bad metal.
Step 1) DON'T CLICK LINKS TO VIDEOS OF BANDS YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO, DIPSHIT.
Step 2) REFER BACK TO THESE STEPS UNTIL YOU'RE NOT A DIPSHIT ANYMORE.
Seriously, I don't even like this band or their music, but why the hell are these comment sections always littered with people saying "OH-EM-GEE, MORE BADZ METAL?! WHY OH WHY AM I BEING FORCED TO LISTEN TO IT?!!!!!1" I'm pretty sure no one held a gun to your head and forced you to click on a link to music that obviously wasn't your oh-so-tough death-black-goth-speed-hardcore-doom-I'm an insecure 13 year old-metal. If you don't like it, get off the internet and go listen to some Cradle of Filth, *******.

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 10:41 pm / quote |
McHizzie :

Echoplex wrote:

bnew369 wrote:

why are you watching it if you don't like it? its not necessary to bash on people's music... except Justin Bieber


Well, this sounds like Justin Bieber if he had a bad day...


lol +100

POSTED: 12/01/2010 - 11:45 pm / quote |
ckragh :

kinda agree... it sounds like electronic music + boy band vocals + poorly played tuned down guitars... errr....

POSTED: 12/02/2010 - 08:41 pm / quote |
sjones :

jee5678 wrote:

sjones wrote:

Oh boy, another band with "uber brootalz" breakdowns before and after backstreet boys boy-band pop "you broke my heart" bullcrap lyrics and singing.

...spare me.


Follow these EXTREMELY simple steps, and I guarantee you will be spared from more bad metal.
Step 1) DON'T CLICK LINKS TO VIDEOS OF BANDS YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO, DIPSHIT.
Step 2) REFER BACK TO THESE STEPS UNTIL YOU'RE NOT A DIPSHIT ANYMORE.
Seriously, I don't even like this band or their music, but why the hell are these comment sections always littered with people saying "OH-EM-GEE, MORE BADZ METAL?! WHY OH WHY AM I BEING FORCED TO LISTEN TO IT?!!!!!1" I'm pretty sure no one held a gun to your head and forced you to click on a link to music that obviously wasn't your oh-so-tough death-black-goth-speed-hardcore-doom-I'm an insecure 13 year old-metal. If you don't like it, get off the internet and go listen to some Cradle of Filth, *****.

I'd never heard of the band before, so I clicked. Listened to a good portion of the song, then commented.
AFAIK, I'm allowed to post my reactions and comments on the vids. Sorry if you disagree.
I'd rather listen to Protest the Hero than Cradle of Filth, just for your reference.
This band, Woe, Is Me, still sucks, no matter how much you bitch.

POSTED: 12/03/2010 - 01:04 pm / quote |
jamsea :

My friends saw them live with Abandon All Ships. The keyboard player wasn't plugged in. They back tracked all the keyboard parts, all he did was jump up and down and do back up screams. 7 members, one of them literally does almost nothing.

POSTED: 12/03/2010 - 06:56 pm / quote |
machca1 :

Good or Bad, like the god like vocalist Jonny Craig says, "Enjoy yourself and ****ing respect music".

POSTED: 12/03/2010 - 07:28 pm / quote |
jee5678 :

sjones wrote:

jee5678 wrote:

sjones wrote:

Oh boy, another band with "uber brootalz" breakdowns before and after backstreet boys boy-band pop "you broke my heart" bullcrap lyrics and singing.

...spare me.


Follow these EXTREMELY simple steps, and I guarantee you will be spared from more bad metal.
Step 1) DON'T CLICK LINKS TO VIDEOS OF BANDS YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO, DIPSHIT.
Step 2) REFER BACK TO THESE STEPS UNTIL YOU'RE NOT A DIPSHIT ANYMORE.
Seriously, I don't even like this band or their music, but why the hell are these comment sections always littered with people saying "OH-EM-GEE, MORE BADZ METAL?! WHY OH WHY AM I BEING FORCED TO LISTEN TO IT?!!!!!1" I'm pretty sure no one held a gun to your head and forced you to click on a link to music that obviously wasn't your oh-so-tough death-black-goth-speed-hardcore-doom-I'm an insecure 13 year old-metal. If you don't like it, get off the internet and go listen to some Cradle of Filth, *****.
I'd never heard of the band before, so I clicked. Listened to a good portion of the song, then commented.
AFAIK, I'm allowed to post my reactions and comments on the vids. Sorry if you disagree.
I'd rather listen to Protest the Hero than Cradle of Filth, just for your reference.
This band, Woe, Is Me, still sucks, no matter how much you bitch.


...and AFAIK, I'm allowed to tell you you're a dick. All you're doing by commenting that you dislike it is degrading others' taste in music. Again, I'm not even a fan of this stuff, but I'm not going to watch a music video they made and then tell people they're stupid for liking it. For example, I looked up Protest the Hero--I really didn't like it that much, but I proceeded to KEEP IT TO MY-FUCKING-SELF BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DO, AND THE VIDEO IS UP THERE FOR THEM, NOT ME. And just for your reference, Woe, is Me has over 84,000 followers on Myspace, a music video on Youtube that in four days has gotten over 26,000 views (the same video that's posted on the internet's largest and most popular tab site, and only one version of it; there several others), and a popular album release. They sure do suck, alright; so what does your music video have? What, like a million, million and a half hits?

POSTED: 12/03/2010 - 08:53 pm / quote |
elleild :

The "how many views do you have" argument is invalid and so is "try doing better yourself".

POSTED: 12/04/2010 - 06:04 am / quote |
Toms' anominous :

meh genericore at best, but it's alright. i'm not gonna go watch a load of wank doom metal or watever just to comment on how bad i think it is though.

POSTED: 12/04/2010 - 07:17 am / quote |
Deece :

bnew369 wrote:

why are you watching it if you don't like it? its not necessary to bash on people's music... except Justin Bieber


Personally, I had no idea who they are. Hence why I'm watched it. Now i'm going to give my opinion.

Terrible.

Now i'm going to vote.

Thats how videos here work.

POSTED: 12/04/2010 - 08:45 am / quote |
sjones :

jee5678 wrote:



...and AFAIK, I'm allowed to tell you you're a dick. All you're doing by commenting that you dislike it is degrading others' taste in music. Again, I'm not even a fan of this stuff, but I'm not going to watch a music video they made and then tell people they're stupid for liking it. For example, I looked up Protest the Hero--I really didn't like it that much, but I proceeded to KEEP IT TO MY-FUCKING-SELF BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DO, AND THE VIDEO IS UP THERE FOR THEM, NOT ME. And just for your reference, Woe, is Me has over 84,000 followers on Myspace, a music video on Youtube that in four days has gotten over 26,000 views (the same video that's posted on the internet's largest and most popular tab site, and only one version of it; there several others), and a popular album release. They sure do suck, alright; so what does your music video have? What, like a million, million and a half hits?

Don't really seeing how I'm a "dick" for posting my opinion.

I think it's incredibly funny you're getting all butthurt because I watched a video from a band I'd never heard of then voiced my opinion. I never made fun of their fans, or degraded anyone for liking the band.
As stated above, these videos are posted by UG, then we give opinions on them. If you don't like it, feel free to wander the other parts of the site.

POSTED: 12/04/2010 - 09:57 pm / quote |
jee5678 :

sjones wrote:

Don't really seeing how I'm a "dick" for posting my opinion.

I think it's incredibly funny you're getting all butthurt because I watched a video from a band I'd never heard of then voiced my opinion. I never made fun of their fans, or degraded anyone for liking the band.
As stated above, these videos are posted by UG, then we give opinions on them. If you don't like it, feel free to wander the other parts of the site.


How is saying that it has "bullcrap singing and lyrics" (and by the way, who the **** uses "bullcrap?" You're either 12 or Cartman from South Park) not degrading others' taste in music? Why would they like if it sucks so much? Is it because they don't think it sucks? I mean, if it did have "bullcrap singing and lyrics" and they still liked it, they would have to have pretty bad tastes in music. That couldn't be, though, because you said you're not degrading their tastes...hmmmm, it's so confusing. It's almost as if one thing you've said contradicts the other, but that couldn't be, either, because you're not a dick.

Maybe I'm just so shooty-farting sensitive to people's bullcrapping contradictions...I guess that's why I'm being such a dork-face and getting all loserly-butthurt.

Look, bud, you can obviously do whatever you want. The ONLY thing I'm saying is that it's not a good thing that UG has become a big dumpster for people's bitching about what music they think is bad. Wouldn't it be cool if people who actually liked this music could converse without having to sift through all the cynical, useless bullshit? Or are you really so pompous as to think people take your opinion into consideration when deciding what music they like? Call me an idealist, I guess...

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 12:05 am / quote |
kornball82490 :

I personally like these guys and their sound. Say what you want about "-core" but the truth of the matter is that all forms of music came from the root of one thing: sound.

I think that due to the progression of the music industry and the like, bands need to have something different about them in order to get noticed. And being signed to a rapidly growing record label like Rise Records means something.

People need to remember that it's hard to manipulate the formula for a good metal song or rock song the more time passes because you can't copy someone else. I appreciate and thank the guitar gods and metal heads my parents and I grew up listening to; but this is a popular form of music right now and despite everyone's bitching it continues to grow and more bands are adapting to the changing of times. Having said that, please consider that maybe (as with any other form of music since the caveman days) this is an evolution of hard rock and metal blending in with other genres. It's working for now and allowing people to pursue some dreams. I bet these guys grew up listening to the same stuff everyone else on this site did. This is what they chose to do, so give them a little credit for sticking to a plan and getting signed and let them live a little. If you don't like it that's okay, but leave the nastiness out of it.

BTW, I rarely comment on UG because I am sick of people bashing anything and everything just for the personal gain of...oh wait...nothing. It would be nice to see this place turn into a promotion of music rather than a collection of urinal cakes. Just sayin'.

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 06:24 am / quote |
sjones :

jee5678 wrote:
How is saying that it has "bullcrap singing and lyrics" (and by the way, who the **** uses "bullcrap?" You're either 12 or Cartman from South Park) not degrading others' taste in music? Why would they like if it sucks so much? Is it because they don't think it sucks? I mean, if it did have "bullcrap singing and lyrics" and they still liked it, they would have to have pretty bad tastes in music. That couldn't be, though, because you said you're not degrading their tastes...hmmmm, it's so confusing. It's almost as if one thing you've said contradicts the other, but that couldn't be, either, because you're not a dick.

Maybe I'm just so shooty-farting sensitive to people's bullcrapping contradictions...I guess that's why I'm being such a dork-face and getting all loserly-butthurt.

Look, bud, you can obviously do whatever you want. The ONLY thing I'm saying is that it's not a good thing that UG has become a big dumpster for people's bitching about what music they think is bad. Wouldn't it be cool if people who actually liked this music could converse without having to sift through all the cynical, useless bullshit? Or are you really so pompous as to think people take your opinion into consideration when deciding what music they like? Call me an idealist, I guess...

a)My opinion is my opinion. If you don't like it, fine. Musical tastes are subjective to the listener. I know people off the top of my head who would like this that I share some favorite artists with, but I'm a dick in your book because I post my opinions in an open forum.
Point being: Just because I have a negative opinion on a band, doesn't mean I'm trashing their fans. People can like whatever they want.
b)Being as it is, UG is an open forum for discussion of both positive and negative reactions to such videos. If someone wants to discuss a certain band without being open to hearing negative comments, then they should visit a fansite or something similar. You'll find, if you use the forums at all, that every "Only" band thread has both positive and negative comments within them.
c)In direct reaction to what I underlined in the quote:
I think it's actually better for conversation to have contrasting views when having a discussion about music. Users on this site a free to their own opinions and views, and also free to post them (adhering to all rules, of course). Once again, being an open forum means there will be constrasting opinions, and if you don't want to hear them about your favorite bands you should just go visit a fansite.

Case in point with this video section of the site; many users I assume haven't heard of a good portion of these bands(as with this particular video in my case). If they watch the video then they're by all means entitled to post their opinion.

Personally, I like discussing music, as the vast majority of this site obviously does as well. That's why this is an open forum. I like reading both positive and negative comments on both bands I like and dislike. This is where I disagree with this statement as well:
kornball82490 wrote:
It would be nice to see this place turn into a promotion of music rather than a collection of urinal cakes. Just sayin'.

It's not set up to be that, and it never will be (The forums/community sections, that is). If you want promotion go to myspace or facebook, or any one of the many media outlets that cover bands and only do positive, promotional pieces. If UG didn't want open discussions of videos and articles they post they'd not allow comments.

I could go on and on, but I'll conclude here. Open discussion of music is much better in every way for the users, musicians, and even the industry than having only positive opinions, or worse, none.

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 08:44 am / quote |
jee5678 :

sjones wrote:

a)My opinion is my opinion. If you don't like it, fine. Musical tastes are subjective to the listener. I know people off the top of my head who would like this that I share some favorite artists with, but I'm a dick in your book because I post my opinions in an open forum.
Point being: Just because I have a negative opinion on a band, doesn't mean I'm trashing their fans. People can like whatever they want.
b)Being as it is, UG is an open forum for discussion of both positive and negative reactions to such videos. If someone wants to discuss a certain band without being open to hearing negative comments, then they should visit a fansite or something similar. You'll find, if you use the forums at all, that every "Only" band thread has both positive and negative comments within them.
c)In direct reaction to what I underlined in the quote:
I think it's actually better for conversation to have contrasting views when having a discussion about music. Users on this site a free to their own opinions and views, and also free to post them (adhering to all rules, of course). Once again, being an open forum means there will be constrasting opinions, and if you don't want to hear them about your favorite bands you should just go visit a fansite.

Case in point with this video section of the site; many users I assume haven't heard of a good portion of these bands(as with this particular video in my case). If they watch the video then they're by all means entitled to post their opinion.

Personally, I like discussing music, as the vast majority of this site obviously does as well. That's why this is an open forum. I like reading both positive and negative comments on both bands I like and dislike. This is where I disagree with this statement as well:
kornball82490 wrote:
It would be nice to see this place turn into a promotion of music rather than a collection of urinal cakes. Just sayin'.
It's not set up to be that, and it never will be (The forums/community sections, that is). If you want promotion go to myspace or facebook, or any one of the many media outlets that cover bands and only do positive, promotional pieces. If UG didn't want open discussions of videos and articles they post they'd not allow comments.

I could go on and on, but I'll conclude here. Open discussion of music is much better in every way for the users, musicians, and even the industry than having only positive opinions, or worse, none.


And I disagree. First, I do want to apologize--I could be a lot more civilized in my responses, and instead I've been attacking, which is pretty childish of me. I would say it's because what I'm talking about is a general move towards nonconstructive negativity on this site; your comments about their music were relatively tame compared to some users who ruthlessly bash music more because they want to get a rise out of fans and less because they actually dislike the music. I don't think that was your intention, so....yeah, there's that.

Going straight to your last statement, because it pretty well encompasses your whole argument--you say it's much better to have discussion of the positive and negative sort for fans, musicians, and the industry. I'll agree with the last part; the industry probably does want feedback, so they know who they can sign and profit the most off of. I've never cared about that, though, and so not coincidentally I really don't care if the industry gets the positive and negative feedback it wants/needs to turn an extra buck.

As for users and musicians, I believe the "open discussion with all viewpoints is better" thing is a blanket statement, and it's true for most issues. Deficit in this country? Better if there's both viewpoints. Abortion? Better if there's both viewpoints? Deciding whether you want Cocoa Puffs or Golden Grahams this morning? Better if there's both viewpoints. But music is different!

As you've pointed out, musical taste is EXTREMELY subjective; what music you like is almost instinctual or inherent to your being. It's what moves you emotionally on almost a preconscious level. So what does that mean? A couple of things...(1) you become affectively bonded to your music--you care very deeply about it because it's almost a part of your identity, and (2) your taste isn't really subject to change (based on what others tell you; it most definitely is subject to change over the course of your life). Do you see what I'm getting at? How could negative comments possibly lead to productive conversation? You saying this music is crappy not only hurts others who like it on some sort of emotional level (which you could argue, but I believe it's true), but there is NO WAY what you say could ever make a difference in what someone's actual musical tastes are, and if it did make a difference in what someone listened to, I would say that they're not really a fan of that music at all. Having negative opinions out there is only better for the users who express them, and only in the sense that they feel as if they've "gott

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 10:30 am / quote |
jee5678 :

...I didn't know there was a limit on these things. I was saying...gotten something off their chest" but at the expense of the fans who care about that music.

As for musicians, do you really want this band to listen to your feedback? I mean, do you really want them saying, "E-gads! The boy is right! Only screaming from now on!" If they did, they would become just another generic metalcore band with no emotion in their music because they're playing what they think you want to hear rather than what they actually want to play. The very best music, the music with the ability to move you on that preconscious, emotional level, is not written FOR you, but FOR the artist who makes it. No, I would argue that a world in which artists respond to feedback from fans is a very bleak world, indeed, but it's the world (musically speaking) we're coming to.

Okay, off my soapbox. Again, sorry for the personal stuff; that was childish. But I hope you see what I'm getting at--yes, negativity is good for the industry, and that's why UG loves it. They're part of the industry. They want to know what you like so they can post their videos, get more users, and consequently profit more from advertisers who want space on the site. Good for fans and musicians? Only if you derive some sort of perverse pleasure from other people bashing the music you're endeared to, and only if you want musicians hand-crafting music directly to your tastes. And please, don't confuse what I'm saying with "I don't think anyone should discuss music." I'm ALWAYS open to new bands because I love new music (it's why I looked up Protest the Hero after you mentioned them). But I just don't feel saying they suck is productive in any way that could be considered beneficial for fans.

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 10:43 am / quote |
jee5678 :

Oh, and one more thing, only to add that the only "conversations" I've seen on the site have been comprised of either one sentence (a negative comment which no one responds to) or a huge argument where the participants attack each other personally. I don't know how they feel afterward, but I would have to guess neither feels significantly better off.

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 10:49 am / quote |
RyuKun :

I like them.
I also think that Tyler sounds like a Backstreet Boy, but it's not a bad thing. He has a good voice.
One thing that bothers me is that their songs don't have choruses. Maybe if they wrote any, their songs would be more catchy. The electronica fits well with the clean vox though, so it's still fun to listen to. Anyway guys, don't be hating because their music isn't hard to play or because "all core bands are the same". If you learn to like the screaming and the breakdowns, you'll check out more of these bands and find something special in each one of them. Stay open-minded.

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 02:17 pm / quote |
Roflpwn :

Hey guys, write a book.

What are the purpose of even discussing if you like the band or not? You listen to the music you want to listen to and dont care what everyone else thinks. There will always be people that bashes others taste in music.
Now i am stating my opinion on this band.
I really dont like the "techno" parts in this song and the breakdowns tend to get a bit boring. The clean vocals are really good and the song has a good flow. So yeah, thats my opinion on this song and i hope noone will bash me for having my own opinion.

POSTED: 12/05/2010 - 05:50 pm / quote |
ciadude2 :

Hey look, catfight!

POSTED: 12/06/2010 - 12:07 am / quote |
staticks :

i love the fact that someones says that this is bad, cause i know they don't have any talent and they don't get anywhere.

POSTED: 02/11/2011 - 05:22 pm / quote |
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